Warning*Warning* ammo all gone

[Twizzler]

With the impending election and days to go, the poles in the race seem nearly tied. Obama made it clear he is finally going after all the gun owners and shooters out there and his message was a very strong. It appears he wants to go after everything semi auto and even pistols. From his lips at the debate with Candy Crowely as the hosting moderator.


That said I staged a last minute rescue effort to acquire some ammo in the possible aftermath scenario. The scenario goes like this the day after "if " Oboma gets re-elected, what scarce ammo that is available everywhere will be all sold and back orders will never seem to come in.

Being a honest responsible recreational shooter and needing ammo to pursue my personal happiness and hobby endeavors, I played it safe.

Please be kind to us in the firearms world we needed your compassion more than ever even if it is not your cup of tea. We need your vote to count to help us stand up for protecting our rights on tuesday.

So, come monday better get an order in just incase we are all screwed.

Aaron

[nifeman]

ive been stocking up just in case and ive noticed 223 and 762x39 in cases are flying out the door as fast as they come in.i can assure you we are on the same page come the 6th

[Honch0]

Ironically, the President has not supported any new gun legislation at all during the last four years, much to the dismay of his liberal supporters. However, the Governor has already signed bills in Mass. banning both military assault rifles and high capacity magazines. Go figure!!!

Now, as I'm sure you all know, we don't "do" politics on DF, so let's not get into anything too deep here...Al

[Twizzler]

I agree with you that we will harm the forums if we go into politics. There are many places for those types of engaging discussions to take place.

I was being very careful and minimalistic as possible with as basic least facts as I could. I'll not deepen the subject. Vote as you care.

Thanks, and good luck to the firearm enthusiasts here. Aaron

[Honch0]

I agree with you that we will harm the forums if we go into politics. There are many places for those types of engaging discussions to take place.

I was being very careful and minimalistic as possible with as basic least facts as I could. I'll not deepen the subject. Vote as you care.

Thanks, and good luck to the firearm enthusiasts here. Aaron

Well stated...Al

[Charleslee]

Never hurts to buy some 'cause you never know but I wouldn't get paranoid. Obama may not have passed a lot of gun legislation but don't for a minute think it was from a lack of not wanting to. Other things on his plate, NRA
& other factors, plus letting states whittle away at our rights. Remember what he said about people in the Midwest always clinging to their religion & guns? Pelosi, Brady (can understand his being against guns, the poor guy, being that he got shot in the head; nice guy, I met him at the hotel where I work), the whole crew are always working hard to strip away our 2nd. Amend. rights.
But anyhow, remember the last go around when AR-15's went up in price to $1500.00 & ammo became scarce? Things straightened out. These manufacturers loved it & unscrupulous gun dealers gouged people. Don't go crazy spending all your hard earned pesos on ammo, IMHO. You'll be OK.
I didn't get too political here, did I? Sorry if I did. Didn't defame anyone, just telling it like I believe it is. Happy collecting & shooting fellas.

[nifeman]

at the tulsa show its 11 acres indoors and its huge..prices were a little cheaper than some of the online sites as far as ammo..and sunday afternoon there were just empty pallets left :) my buddy picked up a colt preban hbar 556 for 950 OTD..i picked up some WPA 223 62grain FMJ.1000 rds for 270 cash.and a 1000 rds tulamo 7.62 for 200 cash this was a steal.and i got a good deal on my new saiga 12..prices were very much within reason..and as far as AR15 there were 1000's for sale on tables and walking around..prices all oner the place it pays to shop around...and i picked up a cpouple cool blades as well..all in all a bad ass show

bob

[pete1958]

Well it doesn't hurt to have alittle extra on hand just in case!

[Twizzler]

There is nothing in their way from holding them back this time as they have secured second term.


1. The administration tried to push through the UN small arms treaty headed by Hillery and refused to remove the wording of civilian small arms. That means the UN arms treaty ban ( foreigners ) can over govern our US civil laws and infringe on our constitutional rights. The NRA put up a fight and lost.

2. The message is clear and the legislation started by demacrate senators is well under way and they have been meeting with the ATF legal department. Its worst than I thought. We have all been sleeping at the wheel.

3. The banning of anything that shoots semi-auto regardless of what it is, banning pistols and high cap magazines ( more than 10 rounds. )

4 Because there is no way to mark any magazines to separate a post ban from an pre ban and LEO since the marking system was used and then sunsetted, there is no way to grandfather any existing magazines even by some sort of compromise. The ban legislation coming is going to ban all new and everything existing. That means you will be required to turn in your magazines or face felony charges.

5. Since there is going to be the pressure of a US weapons ban with the pressure of the UN arms treaty. There is not going to be a grandfathered clause of pre ban. This means confiscation or fugitive felony.

6. The " On line Ammo Purchase legislation " is a primer under the auspices of monitoring and controlling the ammo dispersant to civilians. This will actually severely raising the already exorbitant cost. Its to shut down the competition shooters who use a lot of ammo monthly and wreck the shooting sports. You will be put on lists for wanting to buy more than a 1000 rounds. When you read the intentions of the bill. This will include reloading componants and is even far worst for them. As every compontant of a bullet is counted as one bullet. That means bullet primer powder and shell are really 4 bullets. do the math.



Go to the NRA web site and read the legislation. Its what is coming or already in motion. The NRA is a non political organization.

This might be of some interest to some of you folks that deserve a good read and decide to become active and support the fight or not and loose your privilege.

Aaron

[nifeman]

already a member and do what i can to help them fight the fight`don't tread

bob

[eddiebob]

Like so many things in todays world. It's good practice to have a backup plan. Sometimes there is a thin line between being a pessimist and being a realist. Water well, garden, extra this and that. Extra ammo? How much is enough? I asked the sheriff here about ammunition in homes and he said they did not care. However, the fire department does. MAkes sense. I wouldn't want to fight a fire in a house full of live ammunition. I think I was born 200 years too late. Ed B

[Charleslee]

Aaron: All of that is very scary & troubling. I too am an NRA member as all gun owners should be, Duh! Sometimes I do wonder if they exaggerate the threat to get $ from people although It surely costs them a lot to fight for us. Imagine we didn't have them? Think I better send a few bucks when able. Been meaning to. I hope we don't end up like Australia where they did ban guns. Home invasions & robberies & the poor people can't even defend themselves. The statistics of those are up & up & the asshole politicians can't figure out why? "When guns are outlawed, only..."
EddieBob: You may want to get some ammo cans. Ammo can't pop off in a fire so fast. That's why the military uses them. They have a gasket too so somewhat waterproof I believe. I got a whole bunch (20?) from CheaperThanDirt for $200.00.

[Twizzler]

Everyone I know has the motive that they had better buy as much as I can right now before they ban it. Even dealers are buying what ever they can in spite of this so they have some stock to sell when the masses come rolling in for last minute ownership rights and investment in a firearm that they think must be excluded by right of some sort of pre-ban status. Like last time.

The legislation coming at the least will not have any pre-ban status so if you bought something in hopes of cashing it in later for investment, you can't sell it.
I know two guys ( one FFL ) that are pooling to buy 20 AR lowers to set back. I've warned them.

At the worst case scenario they will have to be turned over. Sounds impossible but there are a lot of other things we are heading for that will make this very easy to accomplish. How ??
In the not too far future your earnings will be sent to the IRS first and then they will deposit the rest of your left over money into your bank account. No guns no money no food.
Just about everyone will have to be on oboma care and pay up first through the IRS for their coverage.
That means controlling your money. Ummkay Dont think for a minute they are going to wait to the end of the year and hope billions of angry people are going to be using the honor system.

Nope I'm not a paranoid or a doomsday prepper. I can see a clear picture of public events in motion run by a revisionist party who is now starting the ground work for the agenda they said they are coming after. The reason why they haven't tried to bull in the arms ban is they had used up all the favors they had to call in on passing obama care.
Once the details come out on the obama care people aren't going to be so happy with it once their dollars roll out and good doctors aren't going to accept payment from it and its going to take about a year to get an appointment with any kind of specialist. They thought they had bruised up all the local politicians on favors supporting them with fear of voters reprisal but in fact that party has held well if not expanded to some degree. A little bit of time between/ so your memory has well forgot about getting your ass kicked from the last revision.

My fear is that once everyone has spent their last cent on running out and buying every thing they can will be cashed out. Pretty simple to expect this right? *Check* You wont have much money to send to support the NRA in the fight for your second amendment rights. *Check mate*.

Aaron

[Twizzler]

Thats a good point Charles about the ammo cans. Get them now. The prices of ammo cans have gone up too. The stock piles of surplus 30 cal ammo cans are dwindling. These are the best to uses, easy to carry. A 50cal loaded with 45 or 9 is like carrying ten bricks.

Anyway, once used in service over seas they are no longer brought back, all get demilled usually by running over them with a tank tracks. Have been for many years as our surplus cans are all very old stock probably from the 70's and 80's are the last of them. They don't want these going to the public without being demilled which means getting destroyed for the metal scrap content.
Basicly, a good investment now before the remainder dry up.

Also get a few fat 50 cal cans good for drums , and if you can find a tall 50 cal can ( good for stacking tall mags upright ) Avoid the 20 and 40 mm large cans as they are extremely heavy and bad on your back.

Aaron

[Shovelhead]

popcorn`don't tread

[ilovekittens]

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[nifeman]

The hell with Ammo this country has a more important crisis going on right now. http://www.daltonforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3359&d=1353246001 dddrdered ILK

lmao thats no shit

[Honch0]

Finally, a post that i can relate to...Allaugh2laugh2laugh2